<div dir="ltr">Sziasztok!<div><br></div><div>Akkor ma 18-19 óra. A Meet nálunk is jól működik.</div><div><br></div><div>Üdv</div><div><br></div><div>Taki</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ferenc Attila <<a href="mailto:ferenca@bnpi.hu">ferenca@bnpi.hu</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2020. jún. 8., H, 12:46):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <p>A kedd 18-19 úgy néz ki, nekünk jó.</p>
    <p>Csatlakozom az előző kérdéshez.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Attila<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>2020. 06. 08. 11:56 keltezéssel,
      Gáborik Ákos írta:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      
      <font size="2" face="Arial">Bármelyik. Végül mi lesz a felület?</font><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style="clear:both;display:block">Á.</span><br>
      <blockquote style="padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid rgb(100,151,206);margin-right:0px">--
        Eredeti üzenet --<br>
        <div><b>Feladó:</b> <a href="mailto:banm@vocs.unideb.hu" target="_blank">Bán
            Miklós<banm@vocs.unideb.hu></a></div>
        <div><b>Címzett: </b><a href="mailto:administrator@lists.openbiomaps.org" target="_blank">obmadmin<administrator@lists.openbiomaps.org></a></div>
        <div><b>Elküldve:</b> 2020. június 7. 11:29</div>
        <div><b>Tárgy : </b>Re: [OBM Admin] OBM (fajnevek)</div>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div id="gmail-m_733085751676454085divMessageBody" style="height:auto">
          
          <div>SZiasztok,</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>A doodles visszajelzések alapján<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>kedden 9:30tól lesz egy időpont,
            <br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Taki és Ferenc Attila írta, hogy
            nekik esti órák lenne jó. Kedd 18-19? Nekem koraesti órákban
            ez a legkésőbbi, vagy este 10 után.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>üdv, Miki</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>On 6/4/20 10:57 AM, Bércesné
            Mocskonyi Zsófia wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div id="gmail-m_733085751676454085divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
              <p>Sziasztok!</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>Engem is érdekelne!</p>
              <p>Időpont tekintetében megpróbálok rugalmas lenni :)<br>
              </p>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Üdv,</div>
              <div>Zsófi<br>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
                <div id="gmail-m_733085751676454085divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>Feladó:</b> Administrator
                    <a>
<administrator-bounces@lists.openbiomaps.org></a>, meghatalmazó:
                    Gáborik Ákos <a>
                      <gaborik@indamail.hu></a><br>
                    <b>Elküldve:</b> 2020. június 4. 8:48<br>
                    <b>Címzett:</b> <a>
                      "banm@vocs.unideb.hu"</a> ; obmadmin <br>
                    <b>Tárgy:</b> Re: [OBM Admin] OBM (fajnevek)</font>
                  <div> </div>
                </div>
                <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Sziasztok!</font>
                  <div><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>
                    </font></div>
                  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Engem érdekel.
                      Időpont tekintetében tudok rugalmas lenni, ha
                      idejében megtudom, de az éjjeli a legnyugodabb. ;)<br>
                    </font><br>
                    <br>
                    <span style="clear:both;display:block">Á.</span><br>
                    <blockquote style="padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid rgb(100,151,206);margin-right:0px">
                      -- Eredeti üzenet --<br>
                      <div><b>Feladó:</b> <a title="Ctrl+Kattintás vagy koppintás a
                          hivatkozás megnyitásához">
                          Bán Miklós<banm@vocs.unideb.hu></a></div>
                      <div><b>Címzett: </b><a>obmadmin<u></u><u></u></a></div>
                      <div><b>Elküldve:</b> 2020. június 3. 23:10</div>
                      <div><b>Tárgy : </b>Re: [OBM Admin] OBM
                        (fajnevek)</div>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <div id="gmail-m_733085751676454085divMessageBody" style="height:auto">
                        <div>Sziasztok,</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>tartanék egy
                          webináriumot fajnév kezelésről a jövőhéten.
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Hétfő - kedd -
                          szerda valamikor.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>A jelenlegi fajnév
                          kezelő működése, kapcsolódó űrlap beállítások.
                          A validációs modul használata. Az épp
                          fejlesztés alatt álló dolgok. Minden ami a
                          fajnevek kezelésével kapcsolatos...<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Keresek valami jó
                          felületet rá, talán az egyetemi elearning
                          rendszert, vagy valamit.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Kb annyi
                          visszajelzés kéne, hogy mennyien
                          jelentkeznétek be rá és hogy délelőtt délután,
                          vagy  éjszaka legyen :D<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>üdv, Miki</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>On 5/18/20 11:05
                          AM, Csaba Ádám Gönye wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <div dir="ltr">  Szia Miki!
                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Akkor élhetünk ezzel a
                                    lehetőséggel, hogy online
                                    megmutatod, hogyan lehet javítani a
                                    fajnév listát?</div>
                                  <div>A héten beleférhet az idődbe?</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Köszi szépen!</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Üdv.</div>
                                  <div>Csabi</div>
                                  <div><font face="georgia, serif" color="#0b5394"><b><br>
                                      </b></font></div>
                                  <div><font face="georgia, serif" color="#0b5394"><b>---------------------------------------------------------</b></font></div>
                                  <div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" face="georgia, serif" color="#0b5394">Gönye Csaba,
                                      zoológus / zoologist<br>
                                    </font></div>
                                  <div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" face="georgia, serif" color="#0b5394">Őrségi Nemzeti
                                      Park Igazgatóság / Őrség National
                                      Park Directorate<br>
                                      Természetmegőrzési Osztály / Dept.
                                      of Nature conservation<br>
                                      9941 Őriszentpéter, Városszer 57.<br>
                                      Tel: +36 30 211 3829<br>
                                    </font></div>
                                  <div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" face="georgia, serif" color="#0b5394">e-mail: </font><font face="georgia, serif" color="#0b5394"><a>csaba.gonye@onpi.hu</a></font></div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div>
                            <div class="gmail_attr">Bán Miklós <<a>banm@vocs.unideb.hu</a>>
                              ezt írta (időpont: 2020. máj. 11., H,
                              12:08):<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                              <div>
                                <div>Sziasztok,</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>most nagyon sűrűek a határidők, de
                                  pár nap múlva visszatérhetnék erre?
                                  Akár egy online beszélgetés
                                  képernyőmegosztással?</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>üdv, Miki<br>
                                </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>On 5/11/20 10:19 AM, Ádám Faragó
                                  wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote>
                                  <div>Akkor jó! :D</div>
                                  <br>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="gmail_attr">Csaba Ádám
                                      Gönye <<a>cs.gonye.onp@gmail.com</a>>
                                      ezt írta (időpont: 2020. máj. 11.,
                                      H, 9:50):<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div>A kiderítés alatt pontosan
                                        ezt értettem. ;-)</div>
                                      <br>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="gmail_attr">Ádám
                                          Faragó <<a>faragoadi@gmail.com</a>>
                                          ezt írta (időpont: 2020. máj.
                                          11., H, 9:28):<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div>Köszi Csabi, ha ránézel!
                                            Viszont Miki lehet, hogy meg
                                            tudja mondani hol lehet
                                            elérni ezt a
                                            kezelőfelületet, és akkor
                                            nem kell keresgélned.
                                            <div> </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <br>
                                          <div>
                                            <div class="gmail_attr">Csaba
                                              Ádám Gönye <<a>cs.gonye.onp@gmail.com</a>>
                                              ezt írta (időpont: 2020.
                                              máj. 11., H, 9:12):<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div>Sziasztok!
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Jelenleg nem tudom,
                                                  hol lehet elérni, de
                                                  akkor ezt is kiderítem
                                                  az előfordulási
                                                  állapot kódtáblájával
                                                  együtt.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Szép napot!</div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>
                                                <div class="gmail_attr">Ádám
                                                  Faragó <<a>faragoadi@gmail.com</a>>
                                                  ezt írta (időpont:
                                                  2020. máj. 10., V,
                                                  12:14):<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                  <div>Szia Miki!
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Köszi a
                                                      részletes
                                                      visszajelzést.
                                                      Ezek szerint
                                                      "viszonylag
                                                      egyszerűen" akár
                                                      mi magunk is ki
                                                      tudjuk küszöbölni
                                                      ezeket.</div>
                                                    <div>Ez a
                                                      "fajnévkezelő felület"
                                                      István és Csabi
                                                      rémlik nektek?
                                                      Hozzá tudok én
                                                      férni ehhez?</div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div class="gmail_attr">Bán
                                                      Miklós <<a>banm@vocs.unideb.hu</a>> ezt írta (időpont:
                                                      2020. máj. 8., P,
                                                      13:53):<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>Sziasztok,</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>van egy
                                                          fajnévkezelő
                                                          felület, ahol
                                                          elég
                                                          hatékonyan
                                                          lehet javítani
                                                          a fajneveket.
                                                          Ezek szerint
                                                          ezt nálatok
                                                          nem tartja
                                                          karban senki.
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Faj név
                                                          listák vannak
                                                          máshol is,
                                                          szerintem nem
                                                          érdemes egy
                                                          újat megírni.<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Azért
                                                          működik így a
                                                          rendszer, hogy
                                                          beengedi a
                                                          rosszat, mert
                                                          így gyors az
                                                          adatbevitel,
                                                          cserébe utólag
                                                          kell javítani,
                                                          de erre több
                                                          nagyon
                                                          hatékony
                                                          eszköz is van,
                                                          hogy megtaláld
                                                          miket kell
                                                          javítani. Azt
                                                          hiszem a
                                                          DDNPI-nél
                                                          például van
                                                          automatikus
                                                          fajnév oszlop
                                                          amit rendszer
                                                          tölt ki, a
                                                          bírt fajnév
                                                          alapján.
                                                          Mindegy neki
                                                          hogy magyar
                                                          vagy latin
                                                          név, a latin
                                                          nevet írja be,
                                                          ha tudja. Ha
                                                          nem tudja
                                                          akkor üresen
                                                          marad, ha
                                                          üresen marad,
                                                          akkor meg kell
                                                          nézni, mi a
                                                          gond,
                                                          általában
                                                          elírás, ritkán
                                                          új fajnév, ami
                                                          nem szerepelt
                                                          a
                                                          törzsadattárban.<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>A DINPI-nél
                                                          Zsófi
                                                          folyamatosan
                                                          figyeli a
                                                          feltöltéseket
                                                          és a gyakori
                                                          hibákat
                                                          javítja. A
                                                          fajnév
                                                          karbantartó
                                                          úgy működik,
                                                          hogy ha
                                                          betöltesz egy
                                                          fajnevet,
                                                          akkor betölti
                                                          az összes
                                                          hasonló nevet
                                                          is, azaz az
                                                          összes elírást
                                                          és egyszerre
                                                          mindet tudod
                                                          javítani.
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Elég
                                                          gyorsan lehet
                                                          ezekkel az
                                                          eszközökkel
                                                          dolgozni. Van
                                                          még a
                                                          validációs
                                                          modul is, ami
háttérfolyamatként fut. Ezzel meg lehet keresni az elírt fajneveket és
                                                          akár
                                                          automatikusan
                                                          javíttatni
                                                          vagy
                                                          figyelmeztetést
                                                          küldetni vele
                                                          az arra
                                                          illetékesnek.
                                                          Ezt a
                                                          megoldást a
                                                          Milvus
                                                          használja.<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Folyamatban
                                                          van egy nagy
                                                          tábla
                                                          készítése
                                                          amiben több
                                                          tízezer
                                                          fajnév, alfaj,
                                                          védettség, stb
                                                          egyéb infó
                                                          kerül, ami az
                                                          OBM-tól
                                                          független,
                                                          közösségi
                                                          karbantartású
                                                          és az OBM is
                                                          használni
                                                          fogja. Hosszú
                                                          távon majd a
                                                          validációs
                                                          modult érdemes
                                                          erre
                                                          beállítani,
                                                          hogy ebből
                                                          dolgozzon.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>üdv, Miki<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>On 5/8/20
                                                          7:57 AM, Ádám
                                                          Faragó wrote:<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote>
                                                          <div>Sziasztok!
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Nagyon
                                                          nehezen
                                                          szoktam át az
                                                          OBM-re, de már
                                                          egy ideje
                                                          átálltam,
                                                          alapvetően jól
                                                          működik, gyors
                                                          adatrögzítést
                                                          tesz lehetővé,
                                                          tényleg
                                                          gratula hozzá!</div>
                                                          <div>Lényegében
                                                          - nézhetjük
                                                          ezt
                                                          pozitívumként
                                                          is - már csak
                                                          egyetlen dolog
                                                          zavar a
                                                          rendszerben!
                                                          :)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>A
                                                          rengeteg elírt
                                                          fajnév.</div>
                                                          <div>Néhányszor
                                                          nagy
                                                          hirtelenjében
                                                          van, hogy egy
                                                          rosszul írt
                                                          névre
                                                          kattintok, és
                                                          nagyon zavar,
                                                          amikor ez
                                                          jelenik meg,
                                                          és nem tudok
                                                          változtatni
                                                          rajta (csak
                                                          szinkronizálás
                                                          után szúr
                                                          szemet). A
                                                          fülemüle
                                                          tudományos
                                                          neve (<i>Luscinia
                                                          megarhynchos</i>
                                                          helyesen)
                                                          például az
                                                          alábbiakból
                                                          választható:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><i>Luscinia
                                                          magerhynchos</i></div>
                                                          <div><i>Luscinia
                                                          megarchynchos</i></div>
                                                          <div><i>Luscinia
                                                          megrahynchos</i></div>
                                                          <div><i>Luscinia
                                                          megarhynchos</i></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Szóképileg tök
                                                          ugyan olyan az
                                                          összes, és
                                                          nagy
                                                          hirtelenjében
                                                          simán
                                                          ráklikkelhetsz
                                                          egy rosszra
                                                          (még akkor is,
                                                          ha amúgy
                                                          pontosan tudod
                                                          a helyes
                                                          megoldást).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Nem a
                                                          szinonímákkal van
                                                          gond (pl. <i>Anacamptis
                                                          morio/Orchis
                                                          morio)</i> hanem
                                                          a ténylegesen
elírt nevekkel. Klasszikusok: <i>ch/c, i/y</i>, vagy dupla betűk
                                                          <i>i/ii, ae, </i>stb.
                                                          Ezeket ki kell
                                                          gyomlálni.
                                                          Egyrészt
                                                          azért, mert
                                                          egyszerűen nem
                                                          jók, másrészt
                                                          pedig ahogy
                                                          nézem csak a
                                                          szinonímák + a
                                                          magyar név van
                                                          összekötve
                                                          szűréskor, a
                                                          fals nevek
                                                          nem. Így sok
                                                          adat
                                                          kimaradhat
                                                          célzott
                                                          rákereséskor.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Ha csak a
                                                          jó nevek
                                                          vannak a
                                                          legördülő
                                                          listában eleve
                                                          esélyed sincs
                                                          rosszat
                                                          kiválasztani.
                                                          A magyar nevek
                                                          esetében is
                                                          elég
                                                          zűrzavaros a
                                                          helyzet, sőt,
                                                          igazából ugyan
                                                          olyan.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Ha az
                                                          segítség,
                                                          akkor én
                                                          szívesen
                                                          megírom az
                                                          eddig gyűjtött
                                                          állatfajok
                                                          helyes
                                                          tudományos
                                                          neveit + a
                                                          magyar neveket
                                                          is (amennyiben
                                                          van a
                                                          jószágnak).
                                                          Technikailag
                                                          már nem értek
                                                          hozzá, hogy ez
                                                          a gyakorlatban
                                                          hogy kerül az
                                                          alkalmazásba,
                                                          de ennyit
                                                          szívesen
                                                          megteszek! :)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Üdv.:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Ádám</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                        <p><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <pre>-- 
Miklós Bán, PhD
MTA-DE Behavioural Ecology Research Group
Department of Evolutionary Zoology, University of Debrecen
H-4010 Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1.
Phone:  +36 52 512-900 ext. 62357
<a>http://zoology.unideb.hu/@Miklos_Ban</a>

OpenBioMaps
<a>https://openbiomaps.org</a>
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                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                              </div>
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                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><br>
                                </p>
                                <pre>-- 
Miklós Bán, PhD
MTA-DE Behavioural Ecology Research Group
Department of Evolutionary Zoology, University of Debrecen
H-4010 Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1.
Phone:  +36 52 512-900 ext. 62357
<a>http://zoology.unideb.hu/@Miklos_Ban</a>

OpenBioMaps
<a>https://openbiomaps.org</a>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
</pre>
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                            </blockquote>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <pre cols="72">-- 
Miklós Bán, PhD
MTA-DE Behavioural Ecology Research Group
Department of Evolutionary Zoology, University of Debrecen
H-4010 Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1.
Phone:  +36 52 512-900 ext. 62357
<a href="http://zoology.unideb.hu/@Miklos_Ban" target="_blank">http://zoology.unideb.hu/@Miklos_Ban</a>

OpenBioMaps
<a href="https://openbiomaps.org" target="_blank">https://openbiomaps.org</a>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
</pre>
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                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <pre cols="72">-- 
Miklós Bán, PhD
MTA-DE Behavioural Ecology Research Group
Department of Evolutionary Zoology, University of Debrecen
H-4010 Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1.
Phone:  +36 52 512-900 ext. 62357
<a href="http://zoology.unideb.hu/@Miklos_Ban" target="_blank">http://zoology.unideb.hu/@Miklos_Ban</a>

OpenBioMaps
<a href="https://openbiomaps.org" target="_blank">https://openbiomaps.org</a>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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